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anthonyadavisii in #hf21 • 6 years ago (edited)

Downvoting has much of it's bad rap because of those that use it improperly.

Using them to flag opinions, criticism, and content representing alternative worldviews does NOT represent ideal use.

Using them to flag spam, plagiarism and various forms of token manipulation is their proper use and that would have great potential towards our economy.

That is only if we can get over the stigma that has come about from the improper use. We should also take actions against those that are misusing them.

Projects like @freezepeach is a step in the right direction but it is severely underpowered.

_{@steemflagrewards also has a small flag abuse @neutralizer that is employed against those that retaliate against abuse fighters buy it needs to be automated. </sub}

6 years ago in #hf21 by anthonyadavisii

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metametheus 6 years ago

Hey mate, thanks for the comment.

As mentioned in the other reply to your comment, what we are dealing with here is human nature.

You don't think people have been trying to educate folk to be a little more discretionary with how they judge (negatively) other people over the centuries?

This behaviour is ingrained in humans, its the competitive, law-of-the-jungle instinct, it is super-hardwired into our brainstems.

The idea of flagging for spam is ok... but how does it work out in reality?

"Using them to flag spam, plagiarism and various forms of token manipulation"

The problem is, how do we define it? Plagiarism is fairly easy to define and identify, although we could use with the coding to allow canonical links to allow syndication across platforms without affecting SEO and appearing to be plagiarised content.

Spam though? Is it just the frequency of content posting? HF20 and the RC-cost was meant to take care of that, and it crippled anyone below minnow status (majority of accounts). Has it actually worked? Has anyone run the numbers to see if spamming has reduced because of the HF20 changes?

I think taking photos of your dinner is spammy. I think Life Coaches who write advertorial to promote themselves is spammy. But do the creators of that content share my opinion? I guarantee they don't. I think there is a grey area, and it's that grey area that is of concern to me.

"We should also take actions against those that are misusing them."
How do we do this? And does creating a 'free' amount of flagging (downvotes that don't 'cost' your RC) help this or hinder it?

Feel free to continue the conversation in the palnet forum here

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valued-customer 6 years ago

Your comment disregards that human nature is what it is, and your observation that human nature causes them to fly flags less than optimally does not support in any way that availing them of more flags will fix things.

It is going to make them worse, and dramatically so. Bernie is flagging here, and extorting everyone that sees his comment with the threat of retaliation if they engage with the flagged party. This is not news to you, I suspect, so you're not living up to your words here:

"We should also take actions against those that are misusing them."

No one is very interested in drawing flags from one of the largest stakeholders on Steem, and that's rational. Giving him free flags worth 25% of his VP is going to make that situation very much worse, not improve anything at all.

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iflagtrash 6 years ago

It has been determined that you are trash, therefore, you have received a negative vote.

PLEASE NOTE: If you engage with the trash above you also risk receiving a negative vote on your comment.

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