I think, it's different here, because our milk still tastes good, and the cows are out on the fields and meadows. You still have wild cows, such as there are still wild horses in France? I have never seen a wild cor before, and of course non of their poop ;) But the poop of the cows on the farms, also of the cows on the milk farms look quite as it always did.
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@johannpiber There are parts where they are again. No one owns them. I doubt they are for milking. More the scenery and keep the nature (grass) short or look better? 🤔
Really? Wild cows? How cool is that? But cows need to be milked as far as I know - maybe they drink their own milk ;) lol
Again, I wish you a great weekend @wakeupkitty 🙂
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@johannpiber What makes you think cows need to be milked? They need to be milked as many times as women, dogs, cats and each other mammal. Cows only give milk for one reason. If that reason, their calf, is over/grown up the milk is gone. That is nature and the way it is meant to be. The rest is what humans do to animals and we could call that animal abuse. 🤔
So, you mean, that they don't produce milk if nobody milks them daily? I have no idea, because I have never heard of wild cows.
Of course you might be right if you compare it with calfs... but as said, I have no idea, apart from that our cows were breeded to give milk, even without calfs.
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@johannpiber A cow can only/start giving milk after she had a calf. The calf is taken away and instead of the calf machines take over the job. The more you milk the more milk they produce. If you slow it down it will be less.
The only thing I know is they bred all kinds of cows to give more and more milk. We had the "milk lake" and "butter mountain" in the Netherlands (too much but it was never cheaper for us) now the pigs and cows have to go because of the environment (an increase of nitrogen) and more houses can be built. Happy weekend.
That's what I do know too, but I wouldn't say it using such harsh words. Maybe Austria is different ... or has become different in the past years, because you can see more and more "Bio" products ... chicken have lots of free field to have fun, pigs are running around instead of living in cages, the cowa spend the summer on the mountains... 🙂
I wish you a happy weekend too @wakeupkitty 🙂
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@johannpiber I cannot say I see much difference. Since the cow madness of years ago we hardly see cows outside. The farmers have open stables and they can go out by themselves but prefer to stay in the stable. They seem to like 18C best and warm outside or cold they do not like. The stables are warm plus there are massage tools (?). You can kick them outside for the scenery but if they don't want.
Since years we can only buy bio eggs and those shops we have at least for 40 years or longer. Partly it is fake too, same what supermarkets sell. A free chicken is a chicken not in a cage but free is different. They are still packed close on each other and get shots to prevent illnesses. If you do not do that and they get ill you can clean them all up.
Food can still have the brand bio if pesticides are used but they are only allowed to use certain kinds and till a certain percentage.
I had chickens myself. To be honest my eggs didn't taste better and I don't know what is hidden in the ground and water either. Some were always fighting and they looked terrible as I bought them. I never saw pigs play except some of the neighbour, saw them hung upside down too after being killed.
I do not know the Netherlands and their farms, but I would suggest you to make holidays on an Austrian farm to see the difference.
Our Bio chicken live outside, but they have to stay in the chicken coop over night, because of the foxes, and even now in December the cows go still outside during the day.
This is one side, but the other one are egg farms and meat farms, just as you said. They still exist, of course, and as long as the people buy the cheap meat they will exist.
Have a nice Sunday @wakeupkitty 🙂
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