Say Hello to New Smartsteem!

smartsteem in #smartsteem • 5 years ago (edited)

A bit later than anticipated we've pushed the newest version to our servers and we're proud to announce that:

#NewSmartsteem is officially alive!

Witness it now: smartsteem.com

Goodbye Upvote Promotion Services

In the same breath, we've retired our promotion services, which means we've completely switched to the #NewSteem mode!

Smartsteem Open Beta

We've completely rewritten everything from scratch with a focus on making it as sexy and smooth to use as possible, mixed in some magic sauce and launched the first minimal viable version for open beta. This includes our first initial 3 Steem apps.

We'll go more in detail about each of them very soon, but here's a quick overview:

Smartsteem: Earn

Our vision is to implement multiple ways to earn SmartPoints, our own system to make the most out of smartsteem.

First feature: Delegate Steempower & Earn SmartPoints!

Smartsteem: Streem

Would you like to bring your curation experience to the next level? Don't worry, we've got you covered with Streem!

And do you know the best thing? You're able to decide whether you'd like to automate it or confirm everything manually. Woah!

Smartsteem Dashboard: Featuring Streem

Curate your favourite authors!

Follow your favourite curators!

Make Steem a better place by downvoting content based on your favourite downvoters!

Smartsteem: Jarvis

We're starting simple with our robot: claiming of rewards. But don't look away too long, he's a fast learner!

Open Beta Info

We're starting this beta out with some requirements.

In order for you to use the apps (except Earn), you need to have at least 500 effective Steempower (incl delegated Steempower) or 25 SmartPoints.

This is most likely subject to change, in both directions

Feedback

Last but not least, we're always open for constructive feedback. Especially if it's about possible problems or bugs.

For that, we've got a designated channel on our discord server: https://discord.gg/6vgG45w

With this said: we're excited for the future! We hope you're as well!

Steem on!

Team Smartsteem

#steem #newsmartsteem #curation #next #level #steemleo #palnet #newsteem

5 years ago in #smartsteem by smartsteem

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twinner 5 years ago

Nice tool, would be prefer the option to toggle to a light theme instead of the dark layout :-)

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smartsteem 5 years ago

We understand and appreciate your feedback. For now, we'll stick with the dark-theme for aesthetic purposes as yellow/gold isn't looking good in a light theme.

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lookplz 5 years ago (edited)

You removed the only thing your service was good for. Now I have no reason to use your service. The point of vote selling was that I did not have to delegate power to you and lose that power for a period of time if I chose to un-delegate. I also don't want to earn your shitty tokens with it either, I want to be paid in STEEM/SBD.

I think you could have adjusted for the new model and still done vote selling, but you probably were more worried about a model that would profit yourselves more and would be easier. Pretty fucking pathetic tbh. A poor way to have adjusted to the climate imo. Not only are you reaping the curation rewards with us having delegated to your shitty service, you aren't going to pay us the entirety of what our vote is worth to begin with.

Pretty sad day to log back in after all the chaos and see one of my (old) favorite services go to such a shitty model. Anyone who's impressed by this or given "positive feedback" like you claim, is simply a fucking idiot who doesn't realize you've given them a big fat L with your garbage, pathetic, new model.

Severely disappointed to have come back to something like this. I expected more care for the users tbh. I guess listening to actual people instead of claiming you've gotten all this great feedback (Which is bullshit, you've not gotten anywhere near the feedback you claim, from actual people other than your own circle.), was too much work for you to handle. Sad.

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skramatters 5 years ago

I like this guy

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martie7 5 years ago

First thing I would like to know how much earning investor with new model? Hope it more 50%. Otherwise why someone will use this service if I can curate manually.

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careassaktart 5 years ago

Yeah! I could very much agree with you! Thank you for emphasizing the rights & wrongs!

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bitrocker2020 5 years ago

so what are smartpoints used for ?

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Bonus: The more SmartPoints you own, the earlier your vote will be made relative to other voters, resulting in higher curation rewards.

This is the first (!) use-case.

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bitrocker2020 5 years ago

thats great .. thx for the reply and support. I guess the challenge for most projects which creates their own tokens are how to bring value to the token. looking forward in seeing more details on how you would do it with Smartpoints. I've got an idea which I hope you could possibly consider.

Smartpoints can be used just like what SPS is like however for smaller scaled funds like if I wanted to run a meetup .. I would raise a proposal and people who have been staking Smartpoints are able to vote on that proposal. Those who has gardner enough votes on their proposal would be able to receive upvotes on their post for X number of weeks or duration based on their little "project".

You are then empowering individuals / community members to be able to know that Smartsteem is supporting smaller smaller scale projects / meetups / initiatives .

That's just an idea ... cheers and looking forward in more things to come from your end.

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yeswecan 5 years ago (edited)

Ops my bad, Misread post

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camdadeye291 5 years ago

I have not been using the platform for nearly a year because I was unhappy with the way it was operating but this looks intersting. Maybe it is time for a comeback!

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archiejenks 5 years ago

Very interesting. Same boat here.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Let us know your feedback, that's what our open beta is for!

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joshman 5 years ago (edited)

Nice, clean interface! I can't wait to dig in!

At first glance this looks similar to steem auto. The follow tabs are just for my account to follow other accounts?What's the value add for smart points then? Is it related to the curate tab? You are just executing my own autovote faster because I own more smartpoints? So in short, you are seeking a delegation to perform manual curation and are rewarding people by performing preferential automated curation for them? Can you clarify?

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miguelportela 5 years ago

Seams a really good project, good luck with it :)

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brasan 5 years ago

@tipu curate 0.5

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tobetada 5 years ago (edited)

cool update, but I have a question: so the smartpoints give an advantage over other users who also use smartsteem? If that's the case, it's not so useful as there are lots of other ways to automatically vote. Also 5000 SP is quite a hurdle, giving the edge to whales...

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smartsteem 5 years ago

That's the first use-case. Our focus was on launching the platform in order to retire our promotion services. More use-cases to come.

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nonameslefttouse 5 years ago

What do you do with the delegated SP?

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smartsteem 5 years ago

We're curating content. The first goal was to publish the open beta to get feedback and to retire our promotion services, which were harming #NewSteem ambitions. Next up: more apps and the improvement of our curation initiative.

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nonameslefttouse 5 years ago (edited)

Thank you for your prompt response. ;)

My current situation: I have 30000 SP. If I delegate 5000 SP, I lose curation rewards, but gain 'Smart Points.' These Smart Points position my vote before other votes in a trail? If my vote is positioned before other votes, but I'm down 5000 SP, I fail to see how that positioning would give me equal to or more curation reward compared to if I simply kept my 30000 SP and voted on my own.

Are the curation rewards Smart Steem earns through these delegations split between those who've delegated?

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Are the curation rewards Smart Steem earns through these delegations split between those who've delegated?

No, due to the 13 weeks power-down period. That's why we decided to use SmartPoints. Keep in mind that the main goal we had was to provide a useful platform for Steem. Earning Steem via delegations for SmartPoints wasn't our main goal, it's rather a positive side effect.

I fail to see how that positioning would give me equal to or more curation reward compared to if I simply kept my 30000 SP and voted on my own.

There's no guarantee that you will make more curation rewards, compared to voting without SmartPoints. It's also important to note that we can only take care of how fast the votes go out from our end, not how long it takes for the RPC nodes to process them. This can result in a partly randomized order.

However, let's say you delegate 5000 SP for 1 month (+5 days CD), you'd earn 150 SmartPoints, more than the majority of the users.

Last but not least, our goal is to provide more utilities for SmartPoints than just preferred voting. This is simply the first feature we implemented. So please don't judge SmartPoints too quickly, as they haven't nearly reached their final usability.

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lookplz 5 years ago (edited)

@dumbsteem AKA: @smartsteem

Keep in mind that the main goal we had was to provide a useful platform for Steem. Earning Steem via delegations for SmartPoints wasn't our main goal, it's rather a positive side effect.

Your goals were misplaced. No one wanted you to convert your service into a "platform for steem." We came to you to sell our votes, whether by delegation or vote-selling. You're attempting to get into a game that no one truly cares to have you in. Your userbase was only there because of your services provided prior to the new HF. Majority of us WILL NOT use your services for daily/day-to-day STEEM usage. We already have plenty of front-ends with plenty of capability for that. We don't need another token either. There are plenty. We only used your service as a way to make use of our extra power to gain STEEM/SBD, not tokens of some sort.

You've alienated the userbase like myself because you are changing the entire point of why people like me ever used your service to begin with. You are not going to gain me as a user to just another front-end service with "cool different tools/functionalities!" it's just fucking stupid. I don't want your service as such. It was meant to be used as a tool for profiting on otherwise lost power, to people like me. Going in this direction you are currently going, is going to make people like me not use your service AT ALL, as opposed to using it as we used to (before you fucked it up with all this stupid bullshit.) do before the HF.

You won't listen to this though and you'll blindly and arrogantly proceed forward with your stupid idea. At this point it's clear that your userbase means very little to you. The rate you've been losing users isn't apparent to you because you don't seem to understand that people like me (With this exception, because I cared a little more, having used your service before and loved it...) won't even bother to leave negative feedback to let you know you're fucking shit up. They'll just leave. That's why you think you're doing "So well" and have such "great feedback." It's all bullshit. Unbalanced, biased, bullshit. You can't see criticisms that don't exist and to assume your userbase is happy, while losing a vast majority of them, is pure ignorance.

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skramatters 5 years ago

@realwolf I hear voice is hiring

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skramatters 5 years ago

Sounds scammy to me

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nonameslefttouse 5 years ago

So please don't judge SmartPoints too quickly, as they haven't nearly reached their final usability.

Fear not. I won't be making any conclusions until I see a finished product along with results. Just had a few questions is all.

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throwbackthurs 5 years ago

Are Smart Points balances Public? I'd like to know how many Smart Points all members have before I invest so I can know if I have a chance to get a good voting position or if I will just always be behind chasing a carrot since many members have already been loading up on Smart Points.

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igster 5 years ago (edited)

Could people who actively curate and make effort towards finding quality content reply to this comment with what tags they focus on so people could explore your feeds to see if they want to follow your votes. Or recommed curators as well!

Thank you

E:I also hope you lower the minimum required for 100 SP to use these services

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pandaparker 5 years ago

$trdo

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maxer27 5 years ago

!trdo

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ekushya 5 years ago

!trdo

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minerthreat 5 years ago

This looks awesome! Love it

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kingscrown 5 years ago

odd as i have a lot more.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Problem resolved. It should work now!

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contrabourdon 5 years ago

Love Jarvis 😍

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smartsteem 5 years ago

And Jarvis loves you in a very binary way.

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stackin 5 years ago

Interesting, I'm going to see what this new thing you got :)

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waphilip 5 years ago

Does the Steempower we delegate help us earn curation rewards, or just the SmartPoints?

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Indirectly. You'll earn SmartPoints in the first place, which can help you to increase your curation rewards due to preference when following curation trails based on the amount of SmartPoints someone has.

Besides that, SmartPoints will have multiple more utility functions, but that's just a matter of time.

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mattsanthonyit 5 years ago

Great and awesome #newsmartsteem lover that's what I am. Thanks for this information. We are hoping you guys work hard more for us. Thanks again.

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aperterikk 5 years ago

Is there a post or a place where we can learn what smartpoints are? I'm very confused as to what they are and what we can do with them.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

We're planning to add some info under the Earn section. For now, we have this FAQ post: https://steemit.com/smartsteem/@smartsteem/smartpoints-faq

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throwbackthurs 5 years ago

what can be done with smart points?

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Bonus: The more SmartPoints you own, the earlier your vote will be made relative to other voters, resulting in higher curation rewards.

This is the first (!) use-case.

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markyen 5 years ago

What is SmartPoints?

I'm new to the platform and it's super exciting that there are ways to earn more Steem, but I'm a little lost.

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contrabourdon 5 years ago

What about if you want to have your alt accounts use this service—do they need to delegate as well?

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smartsteem 5 years ago

We're already looking into it. Delegating for your alt-accounts wouldn't be that smart, especially if the main account has more than enough SmartPoints.

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michealb 5 years ago

looks cool, like the colours, layout

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gandhibaba 5 years ago

Wow! Congratulations to the Smartsteem Team for this wonderful initiative. I was about asking if the minimum delegation was 5k Steem but upon visiting the website I realized that it could be lower.

However, every attempt to login was unsuccessful. I don't know what's wrong anyway. I hope that I overcome that hurdle on my end here.

Also, I hope that Smartpoints will have more use cases as the days unfolds. Cheers!

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smartsteem 5 years ago (edited)

We're currently only supporting Keychain login. We'll be implementing posting-key login as well as steemconnect most-likely. Are you using Keychain and you still experience an error?

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wehmoen 5 years ago (edited)

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Thanks for the feedback. We'll implement it shortly.

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wehmoen 5 years ago (edited)

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gandhibaba 5 years ago

Thanks for the feedback. I'll try log in via my desktop as the Keychain is having issues on my mobile device. Thanks.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

You should be able to login now with steemconnect on your mobile device.

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gandhibaba 5 years ago

I'll do that right away. Thanks.

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oadissin 5 years ago

Great design for the web section.

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djlethalskillz 5 years ago

Congrats! loving the new UI Silky and smooth

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alexisfuentes 5 years ago

You are HOT !!
Very nice #NewSmartsteem

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intrepidphotos 5 years ago

Interested to see where this progresses.

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monster-curator 5 years ago

Please help a poor monster: I have 505 Steem Power delegated but am not able to use any of the services besides "earn". The possibilities for manual curation are amazing and I would love to test it.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

It seems to be working for you now, right?

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monster-curator 5 years ago

Yes, it works well now!

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oneshot 5 years ago

I'm unable to make login: why!?

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thecryptohoarder 5 years ago

Same here actually - where's my SteemConnect login? :(

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Do you have Keychain? We're going to implement steemconnect, but keychain is our recommended tool.

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r1s2g3 5 years ago

I am not able to login using keychain.

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oneshot 5 years ago

Which password exactly!? The main Steem password doesn't work and neither the active one.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Keychain is asking for a password to unlock your wallet, this isn't any key.

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lemeonna 5 years ago

Then smart points will be converted to?

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vlemon 5 years ago

Good job 👏 and nice update which fits the #newsteem mentality

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baillieogrady 5 years ago

Exciting to see projects like this forever making blockchain interfaces more user friendly, good job!

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zayarlinn1 5 years ago

good

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khalil319 5 years ago

Can I Download For My Android Mobile?

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amzadlak 5 years ago

Why i can't login smartsteem? when i'm trying to login i get error popup please try again this type massage why this?

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amzadlak 5 years ago

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satari 5 years ago

Hi - nice move and welcome future.

Just a small hint : with my friends @red-rose and myself in my account @satari, both we could not enter to our smartsteem new accounts , niether of us could open his account by using the keychain login at which always says wrong username ?

can you please advise us for the proper solution to login into our smartsteem account /

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smartsteem 5 years ago

You should be able to login now with steemconnect on your mobile device.

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peeyush 5 years ago

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deep4 5 years ago

Problem to delegation

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abitcoinskeptic 5 years ago

This is a subscription based curation service.

I do like seeing the lower sp limit as it stops spam accounts and beginners who really should learn the ropes organically at first from using the service.

This looks like an autovoting service, very similar to several other auto voting services except vote priority is given to users based on how much money they delegate to this service.

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smartsteem 5 years ago

Streem might be similar to other available services, but Smartsteem is like an app-store, providing many different kinds of applications in the future.

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abitcoinskeptic 5 years ago

Thank you for clarifying. I'm interested in Jarvis in particular and look forward to following your developments.

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jagged 5 years ago

Thanks for changing the structure of your website :)
I still don't get how smartpoints work (As per the question below from @bitrocker2020 - I appreciate the screenshot but the applications seem to create another layer of Steemplexity.

Is there a deeper rationale to it?

I'm limited L(IT)eracy in techno ;)

Thanks!

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steemnepal 5 years ago

Why??

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skramatters 5 years ago

Because it's a club for the circle jerked

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smartsteem 5 years ago

We might change this requirement in the future, to both sides, but for now, it's a rough number on making sure that powering up Steem is incentivized.

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ilink 5 years ago

Seems like a cool tool! So we should try hard to achieve 500 Steampower!

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shaikjeelan957 (1) 5 years ago

cool

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marki99 5 years ago

Amazing website! Is it possible to earn smartpoints by delegating less than 5000 Steem Power? Also, will you make a ranking of smartpoint owners? Will be useful.

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smartsteem 5 years ago (edited)

Amazing website! Is it possible to earn smartpoints by delegating less than 5000 Steem Power?

Of course. We'll add a minimum Steempower requirement in the near future, but you can go as low as 50 SP.

Also, will you make a ranking of smartpoint owners? Will be useful.

Most likely, yes.

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baldryedward 5 years ago

Isnt make the beginners had a hard time using it?

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andrewhoward 5 years ago

Another great thing !

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ahmadmanga 5 years ago

Claiming Steem-engine rewards seems like a feature I'd try... It's such a chore to do manually.

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jagged 5 years ago

Thanks for the email.
Let's ride!
😉

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drutter 5 years ago

How does this related to my dungeons and dragons gold, my frequent flier miles, and my arcade parlor tokens? If I power up my Wow-tokens to 50% do I get the SBD bonus and the +1 Steem power coins? Then when I redeem and cross-nullify my Weed-Cash-Coins and my Beer tokens, and delegate at least 500 Tokenpower to each witness, I get 200 free Laundry Medallions!!
Thanks for all your help @smartsteem.

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thesobuz 5 years ago

I was suffering from loading pages on my #esteem IOS app since today morning. I’m not sure we have another update on #IOS or what? I had made a post with a screenshot but no one replied.

Is there anybody who can help or advise if the IOS app is making errors or any short of problem during surfing esteem?

Thanks 🙏 in advance.

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rmsbodybuilding 5 years ago

Smarthole :)

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yapcat (1) 5 years ago

you gotta be shitting me :

Make Steem a better place by downvoting content based on your favourite downvoters!
??!?
if i had any doubts this settles it ... sadly we can't all get along , im gonna seriously step back from this charade and house of cards the place became, maybe someone sees the light by HF23 is there's still a dollarcent to it, good luck

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ethereumalist 5 years ago

This post was flagged to low visibility, every time any of my comments or posts are flagged to low visibility they will be re-posted with the flagged post/comment edited.

I very much agree on the downvotes. There are a lot of people on Steem that believe in downvotes and think it will somehow be a good thing. Sadly, these people do not seem to understand that the only reason Steem has value is that it had the potential to be a platform that could protect free speech and counter censorship.

Instead, these folks implement a strong flagging culture, which yes, can clean up some trash. But the key flaw with downvotes is that it can be used to shut down opinions that dissent from the norm all the most viewpoint of the most staked. This results in an environment where you are incentivized to agree with the majority, which will inevitably generate extreme and limited minds.

People have to be able to speak freely and without risk of attack to their livelihood (demonetization/deplatforming), and while Steem is designed to not deplatform you, it is absolutely designed to demonetize you if your view is ideologically opposed by enough members with considerable stake.

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ethereumalist 5 years ago (edited)

Edited and re-posted due to censorship

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