RE: Important Changes to Steemit.com and Wallet

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RE: Important Changes to Steemit.com and Wallet

whatsup in #steem • 6 years ago (edited)

I'm glad you feel good about it. You will be the first to feel the impact

I get what you are saying, I've been here for 3 years. I wouldn't have had a clue what you are talking about for the first year.

I'm sitting in a discord trying to help someone who has also been around for a while and had his password saved. He has no idea which one to use where and how to sort this out on his various accounts.

The UI doesn't give any help.. a red box... anything.

Believe me I hope you are right and I am wrong.

6 years ago in #steem by whatsup

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therealwolf 6 years ago

I haven’t tested a login via password, but if I understood it correctly, the popup should show up which allows the user to download the PDF. Did he download that one? Is there enough info? If not, this has to be improved.

If it’s a general knowledge problem, then we need to educate people.

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whatsup 6 years ago

Reduce Cognitive Overload. ;)

I'm fine with it, I just wanted to notify SteemIt, Inc that many users have no idea what happened.
They have no clear path to help.
And yes there is a pdf if you try to log in with the wrong key, that lists the keys... all of them without any tips. :)
I'm just watching in amusement. I am not overly upset. I expect that will come when no one can figure out how to send wallet transactions. :)

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therealwolf 6 years ago

I actually didn’t expect that there are still users who are primarily using the password or aren’t aware what the posting/active keys are. I thought that’s basic knowledge by now (honestly) - but yeah, I’ve been heavily involved with Steem. So there’s a big knowledge difference.

But anyway, I’m sure that steemit inc would highly appreciate your experience of what kind of problems people have to get into steemitwallet.

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whatsup 6 years ago

The biggest issue is with people who have one password saved and now the site wants them to use "the right one".
Do they know which one goes where? (how do they know?)
Do they know where they have them stored?

A good thing they did is allow the pdf download but it offers them no assistance in why or which key.

The first impact I can predict will show if users are struggling is a reduction in wallet transactions. Depending on what key they have saved they should have access to either the wallet or the site. They likely will not know which one to use where.

Testing generally involves testing some various levels of users to ensure that changes are intuitive and people have the ability to either find help or troubleshoot.

Again, I'm not angry or trying to be rude. I don't think anyone, even those of us who looked at it expected it to go live in the middle of the day on a Wednesday without any preparation.

It will sort out and is not the end of the world, but again, a bit messy.

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sn0n 6 years ago

I have such a problem with this method of downloading...

locate *_steem_keys.pdf

Lulz.. anyways..

Privacy and security... Everyone knows to rummage thru the recycle bin and downloads folder when doing research. Who watched sneakers and remembers a scene where they were in a garbage bin looking at shredded papers... Anyways... Red flags went off when they offered that download to me. LoL. the user in me still hasn't deleted it, and really didnt need a security breach like that....

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ackza 6 years ago

dude teh fact steem is letting peopel doiwnload apdf with keys shows their utter LACK of basic common sense security.
#1 they should have had peopel WRITE IT DOWN, just Sepoerate the 24 character key intoi groups of 4 letter/numbers at once, its not that hard, if peopel cant write down 24 characters, or 6 lines of 4 fucking characters each, tthen they cant be using crypto.... The fact that @ned is letting his employees get away with the joek of having a PDF with all youe fucking Steem Private Keys DOWNLOADED to a REGULAR desktop environment into a fucking downlaod folder is the most unsecure method ever. teh fact that they dont know that you can always recover a file off a hard drive, or that no matter how many tiems you deleteit from yoru recycle bn, an experienced hacker can look for the ghost of this file. you have to do a LOT to actually REMOVE data, and so just DOWNLOADINg it to your hard drive downlaod folder like thatw here it just gets lost and anyoen can scan for a document cointaining eitehr the text or even if it was an image file of some text, its still so easily hackable

Realklky fucking inexcusable and @ned MUSt step down after a fucking failure THIS terrible, wtf is he even doing , locking out everyone form tehri wallets via a fucked up faulty upgrade that NO ONE even tested... fucking hate steemit inc right now man after 3 years of hard work working for the steem blockchain more than 99.99% of anyone hgere I fucking get this shit to wake up to while were syuppose dto eb CELEBRATING the bitcoin bull run....

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