RE: Announced STEMGeeks, a new Steem Engine Tribe!

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RE: Announced STEMGeeks, a new Steem Engine Tribe!

stemgeeks in #stem • 6 years ago

It is standard to reserve a portion for the team. Right now it is just @themarkymark but that may change down the road.

@steemstem as far I can see is more focused on Science, the idea I had was to support the entire breadth of STEM and have a place to talk about Technology as much as Science. Where talking about computer building, Raspberry Pi hacking, development all fits equally. I wanted a fairly wide niche but not a general-purpose community like Pal/Neoxian.

As for what will be done, I haven't gotten that far. I have no idea if there will be much sold at all. If there is, I will start thinking that far. As far as onboarding, my initial thought is I don't even need stemgeeks.net because @steempeak is so much better, but I felt it would be used by experienced users and having a dedicated stemgeeks.net is a much better vehicle for onboarding. So it is something I am thinking about.

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lemouth 6 years ago

@steemstem as far I can see is more focused on Science, the idea I had was to support the entire breadth of STEM and have a place to talk about Technology as much as Science. Where talking about computer building, Raspberry Pi hacking, development all fits equally. I wanted a fairly wide niche but not a general-purpose community like Pal/Neoxian.

This is incorrect. We curate all STEM tags, but the miche of authors in each of them is different, varies over time and we have our standards. If the standards are not met, no support :)

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

From what I see, @steemstem is more focused on science, the idea I had was to support the full scope of STEM and have a place to talk about technology as much as science.

Do you know what STEM means? How can you say that steemSTEM only focuses on science and not technology? hahahaha you do not even know what you say! LOL

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justineh 6 years ago

He said their focus, not what STEM means.

STEM is a big and very popular topic, encompassing many different aspects of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics... pretty sure more than one group focusing on it, and attracting the audience for it, is a good thing.

Imagine if we could create a place where schools teaching STEM could use? That’s pretty special.

SteemStem has lots of support and I don’t think they are going anywhere 😉 Maybe different standards and attracting more of the STEM community could be beneficial.

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago (edited)

Do you think that this SteemSTEM will not go anywhere? :P LOL @justineh. Do you think that this system will not go anywhere? : P, I think you do not have the slightest idea of what the SteemSTEM project has been doing for 3 years. The reason that our standards are high, is because we do not want to fill the block chain with trash and create a serious place where all people can have fun talking and writing about science. ;)

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justineh 6 years ago

STEM is not just “Science” btw, you guys keep saying that and you are missing 3 other very important aspects to the initiative. So if SteemStem focuses on Science, awesome.. looks like this StemGeeks project is focusing on ALL aspects of the STEM initiative.

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lemouth 6 years ago (edited)

Hi @justineh. Just to clarify (once again, but I think it is necessary to make things clear). We do not solely focus on science, but on all STEM fields. All.

What we actually support depends on several aspects:

The niche of authors we have and what they write on. For now, our authors mainly focus on science, this is a fact, but this has not always been the case. This varies with time.
We have high standards in terms of curation: we really encourage novelty and communication by scientists and engineers. While we support the rewriting of stuff you can find elsewhere, this support is mild. Moreover, we want posts to be correctly referenced, no usage of copyrighted images. This explains why we do not vote much posts from the 'T' side at the moment. I have checked that yesterday with one of our curators: this category contains mostly plagiarism and rewriting.

Our goal is really to bring STEM people (working on STEM) to communicate on Steem about what they do. This is different than bringing people who like STEM and may repeat what they find elsewhere on Steem.

IMO, the SteemSTEM goal can bring value to Steem. This goal is on the long term side, in particular as we need a product to attract them. And for now we do not have such a product. We are lacking a dev to design it as fast as it should.

Now saying that we are not going anywhere is very rude and not really constructive. Do you mind clarifying? Also, we are happy to listen to people who can help us. But again, saying "we are not going anywhere" is not very helpful... I can really feel some bad sentiments against us in your answer, and I would like to understand why. Have we done something that hurt you?

Finally, mentioning that we have a lot of support is probably very misleading. We have some support, this is true. But this is by far not what could be called a lot. This support for instance does not allow us to hire a dev, which is what we need most at the moment. Therefore, we do things ourselves. But this is slow.

Imagine if we could create a place where schools teaching STEM could use? That’s pretty special.

That is an interesting thing and maybe @mobbs may want to comment this on. On my side, I ask you: what could this place be? Please tell me why, as a STEM teacher, I should come to Steem? I believe that if STEM workers are around, this could make the difference (wrt all other existing options).

This being said, I am currently developing a curation tool for SteemSTEM that will have to focus and find community members more easily (especially as @themarkymark trigs something in me). But this will take some time (most probably a coupel of weeks). As I said, I am not a dev and only become one because we had no one to play that role.

PS: It is a long text and I apologize for that. This is also probably a discussion to have face to face (i.e. through a chat). Feel free to drop me a message if you want to continue discussing. We are sharing many common servers ;)

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themarkymark 6 years ago

The term not going anywhere typically means it will be around for a long time. It is not a negative response but a positive.

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lemouth 6 years ago

Thanks for clarifying. I am not a native English speaking and I understood it differently :)

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

Science encompasses a very broad group from physics, chemistry, mathematics, to social sciences and education

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

many areas, not just the pure sciences

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justineh 6 years ago

Are you just repeating what people say in question form and then adding “LOL”? 🤔

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

because it makes me laugh what you say :D

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justineh 6 years ago

Oh i see, you are editing after and a part of SteemStem so you see this project as a threat.

Pretty sure SteemStem didn’t invent the STEM idea and different projects are always great.

I’m very aware of what SteemStem has been doing the last three years and am excited for this new project to the Steem ecosystem.

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

I do not consider it a threat because it is part of the STEEM blockchain, the more projects are created better for all STEEM holders, because the idea is to recover, right?

It just made me laugh that you mentioned that the SteemSTEM project is not going anywhere, but quite the opposite.

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justineh 6 years ago

I do not consider it a threat because it is part of the STEEM blockchain, the more projects are created better for all STEEM holders

We agree then! I think more projects are great for Steem.

I think you misunderstood what I said. When I said steemstem wasn’t going anywhere, I meant they would be sticking around and continuing their project. As in - having more STEM projects would not have a negative impact on SteemStem, as they were here to stay.

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honusurf 6 years ago

These tokens are not really a part of the steem block chain. When steem engine goes down, the top db layer is shut off, the transactions don't work because they are fake! Seriously It is a horrible lie! Stay away from tokens, keep your steem! or buy BTC!

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

and I am very aware that SteemSTEm did not invent the STEM idea, I did not say otherwise

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carloserp-2000 6 years ago

and I ask you again the question: do you think SteemSTEM will not go anywhere?

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