What facts can you present to support your claim that i am subject to your laws?
If me and my friends write down our rules, fluff up our image with uniforms and mind control techniques, why wouldn't we be just as legitimate as you and your friends?
Try not to resort to fallacies and circular logic, eh?
i don't know if you're subject to my laws, my goal is to share an insight on the human condition, that comes out to surface when people is exposed to hardship and conflicts, i hope you enjoy the next post.
I'm just trying to find an answer to the question.
I might be able to get 5k usd, if I can show proof of me being subject to statute law.
Lots of people ask, but nobody brings the proof to court.
Laws are only ink in paper, there must be a link between the law and the individual, if that link is moral, then the effectiveness of the law disposition depends on your will to fulfill it, there is an ethical motivation to do what law commands. However in modern state, laws requiere that moral element to be fair but it's effectiveness comes from the posibility of law enforcement, which means that even if you don't agree with the law, there are mechanisms designed to force you to comply. You and your friends can create your own law anytime, it is called a contract, and if it meets certain requirements you can use the public force to execute that contract against your friends. Good luck!
So, why do you and your friends get a pass, but me and mine gotta prove our laws apply?
If you feel that the gov't lawyers don't get a pass on proving their laws apply, please provide the facts they rely to prove my connection to their claim.
In fact, pretend you are suing me.
What proof will you bring to support your claim that the laws apply to me?
Otherwise, admit it is a fraud, and criminal conspiracy to play on the ignorance of the unenlightened.
If i sue you i would just have to probe that you're currently stepping the same soil as i am then the laws that apply to me will also apply to you, that's called territorial effectiveness of the law ( it will apply to every person within the political limits of the territory where the power of the legislators that pass the law extends) you can always defend yourself giving a razonable argument, if you think laws are being pass irregularly the you can attack the law for being unconstitutional.
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That presumes the legitimacy of the group making the laws.
If I have no inherent right to control you, you have no inherent right to control me, and we have no inherent right to control them, nor them us.
We, nor they, can not legitimately gang up and give ourselves power none of the individuals have.
Do you have any facts to support the legitimacy of your position as to how occupying an area near to you some how makes me your property to dispose of at will?
Where do I become a knowing, fully informed, willing party to this contract you are trying to force upon me?
We are not talking about inherent rights, we are talking about a social organization which require that you submit part of your rights so that the organization can work. Your statement is a criticism of the idea of a social contract and it's fine but then you should explain or show that you dont get any advantage of beign part of the social contract, you're using the internet i bet you that wouldn't exist without rules and state organizations. I
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Ok, then if I come to your house and clean up the yard, you have to pay me what I want?
It's ok for you to justify forcing your contract onto me because you build roads, but I don't get to force my contract on you?
I have no choice, nor control, over what other people do.
If you want to force me not to use your road, then I guess you can, but expect me to get my freedom to travel in another way while your guard dogs are on a break.
Face it, all you have is the violent domination of whatever geographic area you claim, as long as your thugs maintain your supremacy over the area it will go well for you, but when the sleeple wake up from their stupor it is unlikely that they won't be upset with you.
We are not your cattle.
Stop forcing your contracts onto others, eh?