RE: Value Plan Q4 2024 - Q1 2025 Bridge Proposal and Discussion

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RE: Value Plan Q4 2024 - Q1 2025 Bridge Proposal and Discussion

deeanndmathews in #valueplan • 7 days ago

I am glad to know the others are not scheduled at all ... because maybe we can stop doing what is not working to impress people who are not interested. That's the point. And, I'm not putting the data out just for you to read. I'm putting it out so EVERYBODY can read it and reflect on all the money ValuePlan has already spent versus what SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, according to the data. You have a colleague talking about the pump may be connected to the car -- have you spoken with said colleague about that, in the face of data any investor can find and reach the conclusion that "Gee... how have they ALREADY spent millions if that is the thinking?"

The point is simple. We already know Sucre State, Venezuela, is leading the world in adopting Hive. If I'm voting for VP to get more, I want to see that prioritized and leveraged to get Hive noticed in top-20 countries in crypto adoption in Latin America. We already know Ghana and Nigeria are both in West Africa -- I want to see us leveraging the life-saving work Hive is doing to get marketing done in the No. 2 country IN THE WORLD for crypto adoption. And since we have @krolestwo, and we KNOW KRK is putting work in, let's elevate THEM and projects like THEM for Europe, and particularly Eastern Europe, which is coming on STRONG.

Despite war and regulatory questions, crypto adoption grows in Eastern Europe driven by institutions and DeFi activity

I don't even see an honorable mention of what ValuePlan is doing in India -- the No. 1 country for crypto adoption IN THE WORLD. I have the proposal open in front of me -- there's not even a mention of it.

And here is the other point: VP does not present hard data of what was spent where, and any hint to "this is where we are getting measurable results," so the only thing possible is to look at the proposals and then at global data and say: "Here is the global trend ... so unless VP has data to the contrary, there's just no way that Hive is getting the most bang for the bucks." We keep asking for that data from VP, @guiltyparties. I've read through the comments and I see there may be something on the way, but hey: I spend my off-Hive life as an investor and real-world community asset manager looking at what people tell me they are doing and comparing it to what COLD, HARD DATA says. The best crypto data available in the English-speaking world is saying CLEARLY: VP's proposals are not aligned with best practices for taking advantage of crypto adoption. VP has not presented the data on its own work to show it is exceptional and actually beating the trends, so what are we supposed to conclude here?

7 days ago in #valueplan by deeanndmathews

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guiltyparties 7 days ago

I don't have much of anything to really say because I mostly agree with you. The reason that India isn't mentioned in this proposal is because there's a hiveio post that's about to come out detailing its successes. It's a series of projects that don't all fall into this quarter and are ongoing beyond its range. The post is waiting on just one deliverable this week so we can really communicate the success.

Please take a look at the strategy post before this one if you haven't. Your input would help there.

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deeanndmathews 7 days ago

LISTEN ... I don't have any piece of those millions in hand to go do work Hive has funded VP to go do. I will go look at the strategy post, but understand: VP needs to account for the fact that it has been well-funded to have a proper strategy together at this point, and should long ago have presented clear accounting for what it is doing. And, what do you expect ANYONE to do to help VP strategically when you have colleagues out here telling folks "Well, the pump might have had to do with this or that, but we can't track it and say that it's not working, so let's keep doing it?" And furthermore, @guiltyparties, you've had that Chainalysis data since the last time there was a proposal. You've acknowledged that. Do I see ANY EVIDENCE that said data was used in the preparation of THIS PROPOSAL, asking for more money? No. Now, you all choose what you want to put out to ask for votes and money -- this is where we decide whether to vote for that. How many people do you think know there is a strategy post and have time to read that and say "Well, it isn't in the proposal, but ... ?"

I will go look at that post, @guiltyparties. But you already have my input, and the best data in the world that I could find. You all at VP already can know quite a lot of what you need to do moving forward, and you have been asked again, and again, and again that if VP is beating the models and getting results, then just show that!

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deeanndmathews 7 days ago

Further thought ... remember, @guiltyparties, you ASKED ME to go look at that post ... but before I get into those comments and tell this chain what I think, given that you have colleagues out here talking about "Even if Hive goes to 100x, we'll never be able to really say if the car did or didn't contribute," do you NOT understand that if that is true of the TOP ITEM, then everything else VP wants money for is DEEPLY SUSPECT? Do you understand that blows everything but what there are tangible real-world results on right out of the water?

If you mostly agree with me, let me give you my best suggestion: VP needs to put its real-world successes that people can see up front and double down on them, get some real accounting out here, and get on point among its members about what to record on the blockchain about whether anything it is doing is a good use of millions of dollars. On this very page, you have people running their fingers and making what would be FATAL ERRORS of public communication for a going concern without good accounting in the real world. I know the trajectory of some of the United States' most storied business collapses, and Jeff Skilling's out-of-pocket response to an analyst asking for better data is one of the best-known beginnings of the end because it destroyed any further probability of Mr. Skilling's company getting the benefit of the doubt.

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