RE: DEMONETIZED: Will Gun Control Really Make a Difference?

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RE: DEMONETIZED: Will Gun Control Really Make a Difference?

lordbutterfly in #threespeak • 5 years ago

Of course they would stop. Not all, but a majority would. Reducing gun availability goes a long way towards reducing mass shootings. Thats simply common sense. When you can buy a gun down the street for a few hundred dollars that makes it extremely easy to come upon a weapon.

An illegally purchased automatic weapon costs about 2000% more in Australia then in US. If you can pay that much more for a gun as a criminal you really dont need to be a criminal.

I dont really care. I dont live in the US, nor do i consider myself a liberal but the gun discussion is the stupidest shit i have heard in my life.
Get a fucking taser, a damn slingshot, your self defense potential doesnt go down one bit and everyones safer for it.

Most people are idiots and most people can buy guns in the US. Enough said.

5 years ago in #threespeak by lordbutterfly

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diamonds4ever 5 years ago (edited)

Then explain to me why Chicago's -- which is home to some of the strictest gun laws in the US -- Southside faces mass shootings on a regular basis (the media ignores these)? Regular, law-abiding citizens, especially young African Americans in the city's Southside, have to jump through a series of hoops to get a gun, let alone carry one. As a result, they are left defenseless...meanwhile, its business-as-usual for all the gangs, which don't seem to have any issues buying illegal firearms at competitive prices.

As for your "simply common sense" remark: the vast, heavily-statistically significant majority of gun-related deaths and homicides in the US are committed with a handgun.

And in regards to "get a fucking taser, a damn slingshot" -- not sure I agree with you there, but I also think there's a cultural gap here. The USA is unique in that the right to bare arms is enshrined in our founding documents, in the Constitution. It was no accident that the Founding Fathers made this the 2nd amendment right after the 1st (free speech, free press, etc.). The 2nd Amendment was not created to ensure hunting and sport shooting, and it wasn't primarily focused on a crazy man breaking into your house. The 2nd Amendment was made to ensure that the public has the means to defend its freedom and private property were the Government to ever go usurpatious.

Now, I'm not some paranoid who thinks the US government will go usurpatious any time soon; rather, I just wanted to illustrate why the constitutional right to bare arms is no fundamental and sacrosanct in the American psyche.

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thecastle 5 years ago

I want to end gun violence by using guns to attack and kill anyone who has a gun and doesn't want to give it up for a marginal change in potential shootings in shit holes like Chicago. Ultimately mass shootings will be unchanged because the perps can plan ahead anyway.

I mean I get it, but the problem with a lot of people who talk like you do is that you cant think two steps ahead. Shit has consequences, if you do something it doesn't just suddenly change everything for the better. Real life doesn't work that way.

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