RE: "Decentralized" YouTube Alternatives on Steem? Nope, Not Yet | A Detailed Look at 3Speak and Dtube

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midlet in #steem • 5 years ago

Hmm, feels a bit like nuance trolling to me. Everything you said is technically true, but if you want to dive into the weeds of every little thing you can also point to the fact that images aren't stored on chain, on DSound, those music files aren't stored on chain, basically if it's not text it's not stored on chain. Some people know that, some don't. I honestly don't think most care, especially people coming from Youtube.

They care about being censored and demonetized. That's all, and to that problem Steem DOES have a solution, (although you can be demonetized by other users, more details)

I dunno, I guess this just doesn't feel like constructive criticism. Especially with the whole "gotcha" feeling of posting code like you're outing the big bad liars of 3speak or something.

5 years ago in #steem by midlet

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justineh 5 years ago (edited)

How can’t they be demonetized and deplatformed if all their content can be wiped as it’s stored on one centralized cloud server?

Not outing anyone, I’m showing how the platform works.. as it seems many are confused.. Including their own FAQ section (which says they store it on the Blockchain). Other platforms you mentioned aren’t doing that.

Not saying don’t use, I’m saying back up your content as it can easily disappear.

That may not matter to many.. but those coming to Steem because all their content was removed on YouTube might need to know that.

Simple - let’s back it up until we have a true solution. We don’t have one yet, but hopefully we will soon.

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midlet 5 years ago

I meant to put that in my comment, but yes I agree 100% on letting people know(which they should already but wvr) that they should back everything up, because a meteor could hit the servers we use or whatever.

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justineh 5 years ago

Yes I think this is important best practice that should be taught, and then creators can use what platforms they like.. including 3speak (as I do like it).

I simply included the code to make this as impersonal and not opinion based as possible, which it seems I still failed at.

BUT I have overheard many conversations tonight about possible solutions to storage that would put Steem way ahead of the rest and I hope they continue. As I think having this solution would be totally kickass for Steem. And 3speaks core vision is something I’ve always agreed with.. I just think the misrepresentation of what they actual do was confusing many.

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coininstant 5 years ago (edited)

You must be one of the smartest girls in the world, (for sure smartest one on STEEMIT). Including code to prove your points - doesn't get much better than that. You are kinda brutal though but that's good. Wow i'm impressed - upvoted - thanks!

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joshmania 5 years ago

Because Steem does not store videos on the blockchain

Bitcoin SV has gigablocks! LMAO Bitcoin SV is the decentralized video platform of the future! Soon we will all be streaming 4k video off the SV chain! Long live Faketoshi!

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lordbutterfly 5 years ago (edited)

It is nuanced trolling. Pointing out things to the steem community that is mostly aware of how everything works and isnt really bothered with it since "decentralize everything" isnt the point..
Then again, Dtube is decentralized. Using IPFS allows for anyone to host their own or others videos.

This whole post is one massive red herring coming from someone that shills bitcoin on twitter which is one of the most lied about cryptos in the history of crypto, one of the most manipulated, one with most corruption tied into. Yet you wont see much criticism on Bitcoin but shell ask you to shut up when someone asks:

"Whats a decentralized alternative to Youtube.".

Shes pointing out something people are aware of and trying to use it to FUD. Yelling "its not decentralized on twitter" while 5 mining pools can hit bitcoin for 51%.

Creating a narrative:

"Youre liars, dont be liars."

...while Steem is the least marketed and least "full of shit" crypto out there. And shes doing that now that Steem has a sliver of a chance to get its name out there.

Virtue signaling with ill intent, nothing more.

Its like if people started talking about Steem and it started getting out in the space and i started posting and tweeting to get attention:

Did ya know about the premine, did ya? did ya know that Steemit can ban you too, they have banned 3 people already. Did ya know? Did ya know?!

It would be with ill intent and a scummy thing to do. Just like it is right now that dtube and threespeak are getting attention.

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justineh 5 years ago (edited)

Nah, if I wanted to shit talk Steem.. I would do it out there 🙂 stop making everything so personal butterfly, again.

I own a decent stake in STEEM and have worked on it for almost 2years. Why would I want it to fail? That’s not very logical.

This is not something “everyone knew” in fact many steemians have been shilling it as so all over twitter due to things they saw the team saying.. and the fact that their faq states they store it on the blockchain, therefore creating a false narrative.

If you knew, awesome.

Others didn’t, and they need to know to back up their stuff.. and not get people here on fake pretenses. False pretenses are a sure way to make Steem look bad.. way more than this post you seem to think is meant to do so.

While you try to twist things here though (I’m sure you’ll get your much needed brownie points for that, don’t worry), we are already working on possible solutions, as this is a problem that needs to be solved.

I know many people like to sugar coat problems and just ignore them, so they get their upvote, others like to solve them.

I would like both groups to get attention right now, even said that above .. great time for steem to be in the spotlight, but let’s not ruin it with false empty shills.. people aren’t dumb, and they will backfire.

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justineh 5 years ago

I downvoted this due to the fact that this long ass thread is now attached to the top voted comment. It’s taking away from the actual conversation at hand, including that on the original comment.

This is like some cat fight about mean stuff on twitter.. and not about the post.

I’m not trying to hide it, but it is taking away from the actual conversation. :)

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lordbutterfly 5 years ago

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