The raised garden beds are not holding up as well as I hoped

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About two years is all I got out of many of these self built raised garden beds. The screws seem to have failed, breaking apart making the beds collapse. Maybe bolts and metal brackets would have been a better way of building these. Oh well. I will try to fix those that still stand, and the rest I will break down into materials.

I have been noticing some of the beds are falling apart in my fenced in garden. I think the beds were built too tall using the hardware installed. Some of them can be saved, others I think I am better off breaking them down into smaller beds or completely disassembling the broken ones.

Once they fall like this its hard to do much to get them back up, but there are a few that are just starting to fall apart. Which can maybe be fixed with some hardware. But for those that have fallen I just remove the wood.

Even the short beds have had trouble, the one that had fencing on it seemed to get pulled over. Probably should have driven in t-posts for added support. Hopefully I can do that to the others before they fall as well.

Screws do not like to be pulled, and the constant force broke many of them. Even though they were 3 inch screws they were not strong enough to handle the dirt in the beds over time. Building beds using metal paneling and larger bolts may be the way to go.

A closer look at the wood screws that broke.. Looks like they got pulled until they broke. Screws do not have much strength in this direction so I can see how this was the weak point.

Ones like above can probably be fixed with a bracket.

Some have their entire side falling out, trying to push the dirt back in does not always work well. So I may need to tear this one down too. Many of them started falling apart as I added more dirt to them, I found a lot of settling occuring in the beds. Making the soil drop by over half, so when I added more dirt the screws started breaking.. Too much weight I guess pushing on the sides. Dirt is heavy...

At least the dirt inside looks really good. And glad to see the non-pressure treated / non painted wood has held up.. Seems the screws are the weak link in this design.

So these beds lasted about 2 years, give or take.. I think a few of them will last another year or two. But most of the tall ones are starting to really fall apart now. Doubt I will do raised beds again here, probably just going to tear them down, till the ground and plant directly into the mounds left from beds. I hope erosion will not become an issue without any beds though, as the garden is built on a slope. But I can always adjust for that later adding supports. But if I leave the beds its quite hard to till the area, so I think I am going to remove them completely as they break.

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Would rebar or some such driven through the middle tying the long sides together work?

All of my wooden beds last no longer than two years and sometimes only one year. I have leftover roofing metal and thought about trying a few of those, but the older I get the more I am looking at the tall metal beds sold online. Decisions, decisions.

Hmm maybe it would.. but I think the way to attach it to the 2x8s may be difficult.

I thought about doing the beds with metal.. kind of wished I did that now, would probably be holding up better.

The way I remember seeing it done was to insert the rebar completely through the 2x8s bolted from the outside. On long beds would probably need 2 or3 ties. It ties the 2x8 together preventing the sides bulging out and therefore sliding. Might have to displace some dirt to find the exit hole. Best to insert them before filling, I suppose. Hell, it might not even work lol

I'm still debating on the metal too, but might go prefab

Hm, we use corrugated iron but still need some stakes on the outside to keep them from collapsing. Perhaps some star pickets nailed on the outside would stop them collapsing?


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Good idea, we have t-posts we are thinking of driving into the sides to stop them from collapsing more.

Maybe between some sheet metal and those star pickets it will come together nicely.

I just made some beds. I used brackets in the corners with some hefty screws that I hope will last a while. They take a lot of filling. We emptied a couple of compost bins into one of them. We have some soil we can use, but may need to buy more.

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Oh nice, when they are only a level or two tall they work well. But I think I built mine too tall with the design.

Hah yeah they do need a lot of dirt, I mix in native soil and then amend with potting soil.

The problem is that butt joints are weak as anything.

Maybe you could put some steel corner plates on the outside of the corners. Maybe also the inside in alternating screw patterns. Then they’ll be super strong.

Yeah I was afraid of that, I think that would work though with your solution.

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I had the same problems but eventually we got around it. We glued it, cemented it, screwed it in, put in nails and it’s holding up fine. I hope you’ll manage to fix it🥹

Ah okay, I am going to try to fix them in the next few days.. will do an update post if we get them back together.

thanks

Fingers crossed 🤞🏻!! I’ll follow you :). Hoping for good news :)

Did you just directly screw the boards to one another or to a supporting post within?

The first time I made some I had the same issue as I screwed the boards together. After that I constructed the walls with supporting posts internally at each end that has held pretty well. I don't know if I'm describing it well enough though!

Yeah I screwed the boards directly into each other... Yeah I see what you mean, that may have helped.. but its not the wood that failed.. it was the screws broke off from the force of the dirt in the beds I think.

Yeah screws can be iffy. I had some recently that just corroded into nothing within a year and I was a tad disappointed!

Ohh bro! You need to take some time to fix the sowings, you know today I saw a fertilizer that @sanjeevm uploaded very good.
Check its content, maybe it will help you for your plantings, I don't know if it will help me for cactus 🌵, but I hope you answer me.

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Ah thanks man I will get it all figured out.

Always with your labors in the garden, I congratulate you, you are very productive. I look forward to your visit. Greetings and success from Venezuela.

Thanks a lot

Thanks to you for offering us quality publications, looking forward to your visit to my previous one, about yoga. Success

I have never built a raised bed, and doing it from wood seems like a lot of work, a more natural way and easy way to build it would seem to me would be from concrete retaining wall blocks, though it would probably raise the cost significantly.

This was all new to me as well.. I have built small ones.. one level high before. But first time building big ones like this.

I see what you mean.. yeah I could probably do that with concrete and bricks.. would probably be very strong.

Now that's a serious raised bed! That's what I like to see no back breaking lol

Hah yeah exactly.. thats why I want to keep them.. better on my back.

That's amazing my friend, it will make the plants more comfortable in that place ❤️

ah thanks

You're welcome my brother ❤️

I think, reaching it for two years is a good investment too.😊

Me too.. just hope I can get another year or two though.

I think, you can manage it, since you're good in every task that you do.

Nice for plants

exactly

You are very productive

much appreciated

Ah man, that stinks. If it makes you feel better my raised bed is falling apart too. I really need to spend some time and give it some attention, but since I hardly use it anymore I just haven't gotten around to it. I hope you can come up with a good plan moving forward.

Damn well I am not alone then... Thanks. I am going to work on them in the next few days.. maybe with some more strews, bigger ones like timberlocs I can fix them.

Yeah, either that or those new structural screws that they have.

That whitish thing. Is it the snow?

yep sure is

The beds of the garden are breaking down. You have to move very quickly. I have seen a lot of interest in your garden. You care very well in the garden. You have to make beds separately to garden there.However, we are planted here on the ground and properly cared for the garden.

I am afraid so, I plan on trying to fix them in a few days.. hopefully we will get them back together.

Yeah some of the beds can probably be moved into smaller parts..

I wondering if you've planted anything on the beds before?, if the growth was successful? i think you should give the beds another chance.

Yes I have, we had two growing years from them.

ohh i see. good thing they've served you

Very inspiring man, thanks a lot for sharing!

Glad to share my experiences

Appreciate able work sir your hobby very interesting

Glad you liked it.

Is there a problem with planting in the ground?

No, its just harder on us.. I was hoping to have tall raised beds for short plants so they are easy to pick. Otherwise we would need to be on our knees all the time.. not a big problem with foam pads but just wanted something more ergonomic.

In the end if the beds fall apart that is the backup plan.. just take the wood out and till in place.

That would work, you would have a small mound to plant on. I have a small stool that I move around with me, I understand not wanting to be on your knees.

Ahhhhhhh :( nice try tho.. gardening is something I keep meaning to get into, but its something so foreign to me. I did successfully raise a few herbs.. but even that wasnt enough even to cook with much. so, I just stick to trading and investing and just buy whatever veggies I want. 😉🤙

I feel ya, many times I just end up buying at the market.. but its fun to grow what you can..

fruits I tend to eat more fresh off my trees, but veggies sometimes you just need to buy.

It's a shame the raised beds didn't last longer but at least the soil in them looks fertile and hopefully future solutions will be more durable.

Ah yeah.. there is always the backup plan and just using the dirt in the beds.

Honestly, I will not doubt about your work in agriculture, your enthusiasm and hard work always yield maximum results, cool my friend😊

thank you, it is hard work but worth it in many cases.

Waooo... This is too bad, there is a way to solve it at the structural level, a nail or screw simply will not support the weight of the soil inside the beds, you can cross the wood or put support in the corners. I hope you can solve it.🤗

Yeah well live and learn, did not know that would happen..

True, I may just do something like that.

Yes, this is part of life experiences, come on!!!!! 🆙

Man, that’s rough, 2 years isn’t a bad run, but still, all that work just for them to start falling apart, I myself would be very frustrated. Bolts and brackets are good upgrades

Yeah better than just one or breaking down right away.. hah

True, I may try to fix these but next time I will use metal and bolts.. not wood and screws.

hahaha metal and bolts would do a much better job indeed 🤣🤣🤣

Ciao,si vendono delle staffe ad angolo in ferro da avvitare tra tra una trave e l'altra cosi da tenerle unite,se le avviti nei quattro angoli dovresti risolvere il problema.